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I wasn't gonna say anything but:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2006/09/25/guards-return.html

The Canadian Border Security Agency says it will take ten years to train and equip every officer with a sidearm. The first two years will cost $101 million (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency/security-securite/questions-e.html).

Conspicuous by its absence is any reportage of the number of Canadian border guards who have been shot by desperadoes raging to hop the line into the Great White North. That's because there haven't been any: among the 730 names in the Canadian Police and Peace Officers Memorial Honour Roll, going back to 1804, there are only four entries for customs officers: one in 1980 (no one seems to know how he died, but a boardroom in the Customs Excise Union building is named after him) and three in 1994 (two drowned in a flood, and one was killed when a drunk driver hit her car).

I am not convinced this is a good idea, when I cross the border and look at the college students doing their summer term with CBSA, asking me about where I've been and do I have any cigarettes.

It kind of reminds me of the late 1980s when I was working in Ottawa, around Parliament Hill and the Governor-General's residence. The RCMP was tasked with a lot of public security duties and as usual was very short-staffed. So, they hired 3-400 "Special Constables" who mostly did airport security, VIP security, and institutional security at Parliament Hill and the residences of the Prime Minister and G-G.

They all had sidearms and many of them were armed with the Heckler and Koch MP-5 9mm submachine gun, a short-barreled compact weapon then used by many SWAT and counter-terrorist units. These were taken away from them within two years, because of the many instances of SCs shooting themselves in the foot or leg with them!

Date: 2006-09-25 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victriviaqueen.livejournal.com
Heh. I didn't say it was a good idea to arm them... but I am wondering why the hell the American authorities called up the border and said "hey, there's an armed wacko headed your way." Why not *stop* him? I don't get it.

Date: 2006-09-25 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffreyab.livejournal.com
Its an attempt to get pay raises, if you carry a gun you can command more money at contract time.

A misuse of workplace safety rules.

Date: 2006-09-26 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltmurnau.livejournal.com
Regardless, because of my comments I expect to be invited into the "Little Room" the next time I want to re-enter Canada.

Date: 2006-09-26 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffreyab.livejournal.com
Also some of the American Border Patrol have been carrying guns for years so its a matter of:

A) Keeping up with the Joneses and

B) Anticipating conditions down south reflecting future conditions up here.

How ever I do not think the Canadian border will not soon if ever have the illegals smuggling problem the Americans do.

Date: 2006-09-26 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffreyab.livejournal.com
I am also reminded of an armed security guard in Ottawa who was killed because he was armed and decided to intervene in a Armenian terrorist attack on the Turkish embassy. If he was unarmed he would be much more likely to be alive.

If they do get guns that means they will need both extensive initial training and ongoing practice to keep their skills up. Which means either renting or building gun ranges, buying guns and ammunition, hiring people to fill in for people practicing on gun ranges.

Date: 2006-09-26 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltmurnau.livejournal.com
Well, the official bill will be $101 million for the first two years, followed by Lots More I guess for the next eight. Then they'll ALL have guns and they will ALL need periodic retraining and practice.

if you carry a gun you can command more money at contract time

Fortunately or unfortunately, this rule does not apply to the Canadian Army!

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